Would You Value The Message More If My Name Were Joe?
Hi,
This morning I was over at James Brauschs site and read an interesting post – What’s In A Name.
James made an interesting observation:
I used to work a lot with Indian nationals who wanted to break into this business. In fact, a business that has complete run itself for several years now still does work with Indian nationals aspiring to be international Internet business owners.
In that business, I cautioned them to choose a pen name. I showed them how to choose a European sounding name. Why? Because tests showed that everything they did was accepted better with a European sounding name vs. an Indian national traditional name.
The difference was remarkable. Sometimes article submissions would be accepted at a rate 50 times higher from John Carpenter than from Anil Singh. Racism? Nationalism? Just a feeling of being more comfortable with a European name for U.S. residents (which is still the largest English speaking Internet market in the world)?
I have no idea. Test results can tell what works. Testing can’t answer the why question though.
I could cut & paste the entire post here, but I would urge you to read the post as well and draw your own conclusions.
But it did bring up an interesting point – how much does the name of an individual impact their business, business relationships and opportunities?
Would the message I deliver be more accepted if I signed my posts with “Joe” or shortened “Mohamed” with “Mo”? How about I use my nickname “Robert” which was “given” to me when we arrived to Canada? Sort of brings back the era of colonialism, doesn’t it?
Every country went through this – Canada even had its hand when Irish children came to Canada and were adopted – many were given French names since they sounded more “Canadian” – check this out: http://www.histori.ca/minutes/minute.do?id=10165
Perhaps in an ideal world there would be no impact, and you’d be recognized based on your abilities regardless of your name — whether it is Mohamed, Gary, Romuald or James.
It was interesting that James mentioned that when he switch from James Brausch to Diego Norte his increased by 50% (from 23% to 36%). Why? Even he isn’t sure since James is about as “white” (perhaps the word that I should use is caucasian) as you can get [those are my thoughts, not his].
Here is another example – I know of a VP that I worked with in Canada, when he went to work in the US he shortened his last name — and he was as white as you can get as well (his ethnic background was Polish). Why? He probably felt that his Polish last name might limit his opportunities, I don’t know as I never really asked since it is a pretty personal decision.
What is in a name? Does the name Mohamed scare people? Does it evoke thoughts of radical Muslims? Am I radical? Nope. Will I discuss my religous beliefs? No – two things that I don’t like to talk about are politics and religion. I’ve learned form experience that these are discussions that only cause bitterness, and I’m an empathetic person, a humanitarian and it really disturbs me when someone tells me they don’t like me since I’m a pretty friendly guy (at least everyone tells me that I am too nice).
My last name is Bhimji – a traditional Indian name. In fact my grandfather is from the Indian sub-continent from the state of Gujrat. He emigrated to Africas East Coast over 100 years ago.
I guess I could rewrite my last name to be “Benjamin” — so there is my new pen name – Robert Benjamin – don’t think I can get much more caucasian than that. Interesting that the name Robert means “bright fame” in German (see http://www.behindthename.com/name/robert) and the name Benjamin means “son of the south” or “son of the right hand” (see http://www.behindthename.com/name/benjamin).
Would it make a difference if I told you that I’ve lived in Canada for 38 years? That I grew up in this great country? I can not relate to my traditional/ethnic country of India, or even Africa — just because my parents grew up there and my grandfather is from India. Yes, when someone says they are from Africa or India – a certain sense of pride is evoked since I know that my ancestry is from there.
So am I bitter? Nope, not at all. If someone can not see past the name then they are the ones loosing out, not me since that’s one person I’d rather not call a friend.
Here are some great perspectives on names:
- http://www.boloji.com/perspective/012.htm
- http://www.vietvet.org/pwrname.htm
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name
I will end with this…
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet“
Meaning
What matters is what something is, not what it is called.
Origin
From Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet, 1594:
JULIET:
‘Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What’s Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call’d,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.
(from http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/305250.html)
Regards,
Mohamed Robert Benjamin
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Hi Mohamed, Robert Benjamin is a great pen name. My brother’s first name is Benjamin — great name. I accept you whatever you choose to call yourself. I don’t claim to be free of the gut-level racism/culturalism (whatever it is) that affects most people, but I do actively attempt to train myself out of it. Otherwise I would stand to lose chances to build profitable relationships with some very good people. It is so sad when people don’t have the imagination to reach beyond their culturally driven prejudices.
Hi Luke,
Thanks – I haven’t decided either; but will try some experiments with articles to see the responses.
Everyone has gut-level reactions to people no matter what. Originally I lived in Edmonton, AB — I’m sure people hate it but it’s pretty redneck. It’s been called the Bible Belt of Western Canada.
When we first came to Edmonton in the 1970’s, racism was rampant. I still remember my dad waiting at a traffic light and someone pulling up beside us…
“Damn Pakis – go the f*** home!”
I wasn’t even from Pakistan!
Over the years as new immigrants started to integrate and people moved around the community was more tolerant and accepting of the new Canadians.
In all the time I lived there, I saw very few ‘Asians’ (Chinese, Japanese). I had never met a Greek, or Italian and the Punjabis or Hindus that lived there were very integrated – very few of them wore religious symbols in public.
I’m sure it was because most minority groups kept to themselves.
Fast forward and I’m in Vancouver, BC. I see people of all nationality here. Many Punjabis and Hindus that have been here for hundreds of years have integrated with the community at large but many express the outward appearances of their religious beliefs.
The same thing for people of different religions – whether they be Muslims, Jews or Christians.
I’ve been told that Vancouver is the Gay capital of Canada. Well, in Edmonton that’s one topic/word that isn’t talked about. In Vancouver, the lifestyles here are very open and I have gay/lesbian friends at work.
Believe it or not, for someone that has grown up in Canada – it was a bloody tough adjustment to make! I all of a sudden had to realize that what may have been acceptable in Edmonton IS NOT acceptable in Vancouver.
What could I say? What could I not say? Were there topics I should avoid?
It was literally culture shock.
Fast forward 3-years and I’m feeling at home, though there are still topics I will not approach; I’m getting much better at leaving my redneck attitudes behind me and becoming more accepting of my community and the people that make it up.
Regards,
Mohamed … or is that Robert???